Mad Mike wrote: Wiltz wrote:I'll just put down a few things that should clarify some things.
Firstly, and most importantly, the UN and EU will never get involved in this kind of situation because it is religious and UN policy is to not intervene in a religious conflict.
Secondly, I saw this all over the media at one point, its not that the media doesn't care but Ukraine and the Gaza Conflict are more recent and have much larger repercussions. I mean the MH17 flight could have led to WWIII if it went the wrong way, and the Gaza Conflict is about retaliation from Israel which could potentially blow up into a full scale war around the Middle East. No wonder media are putting these things first, since they have the potential to kill more than 1.5 million lives.
ISIS are obviously doing horrible things at the moment but the UN's hands are tied and there are more potential problems rising in the middle east and even the world.
If that is the case, then the UN are either dumb as sh*t and completely ignorant, or they just don't give a f*ck... :/
What's happening in Iraq is NOT a religious war, it's a ethnic/religious genocide. The people who are being killed in Iraq are Assyrians, Syriacs (like me) and Chaldeans, all of which are Christians (shia muslims are also being killed). They are also the native population of Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon and small parts of Western Iran -- in other words, they are the descendants of the mesopotamians. Despite this, the international community only regognizes them as "christian minorities" instead of natives. They are being driven from their homes and killed, and still they are unable to fight back. So this is NOT a conflict, it's one-sided genocide. Like what Hitler did to the jews, who were also both a religous AND an ethnic group.
And how come the UN could intervene when the Rwandan government killed the Tutsis, but they can't do anything about this? That is bullsh*t, people just don't want to get involved in the middle-east (primarily Iraq) again because of the backlash it would cause. So they just look the other way and tell themselves that their hands are tied.
Also, what is happening in the Ukraine and Gaza is by no means worse or more important than what is happening in Iraq and Syria, neither is it more recent. Ukraine seperatists are freaking choir boys compared to the animals in ISIS.
In its report, the UN mission to Iraq says at least 5,576 civilians were killed and another 11,665 wounded from 1 January until the end of June.
Another 1.2 million have been driven from their homes by the violence, it adds. The pace of civilian deaths over the first six months marked a sharp increase over the previous year. In all of 2013, the UN reported just over 7,800 civilians killed, which was the highest annual death toll in years.Now lets look at the death toll in Eastern Ukraine:
At least 356 people, including 257 civilians, have died since the beginning of the “anti-terrorist” operation in Ukraine’s eastern regions of Lugansk and Donetsk, according to UN calculations.I don't like playing numbers with human lives, but 356 is not nearly as much as 7,800 (all of which were civilians)! And the situation in Iraq and Syria is by no means less important in a global perspective: if the Iraqi and Syrian governments collapse and fall into the hands of monsters like ISIS it would lead to an all out war in all of the middle east. It would lead to the death of esentially all minorities and millions of civilians. The conflicts would also likely spread to Iran, Israel and Lebanon.
ISIS isn't some teenage gang with guns, they are well trained and funded by US-allies (aka Saudi-Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and the whole bunch). But of course, you wont hear that on television... They also have support of many muslims in the west. Sitting this one out is not only going to mean the destruction of a 2000 year old heritage and countless of deaths, it's also going to bite the West in the @ss.
I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about Gaza or the Ukraine, but those countries have enough attention already. The whole world is talking about it. But the only thing you heard about Iraq on television was that ISIS is in fact gaining power, but they said nothing about the atrocities they commited or who how the civilians suffer...